How Long Does A Boiler Take To Heat Up

On my steam boiler,

it takes virtually 10 minutes from a common cold start earlier all the rads give off heat, then the pressure builds and it shuts downwardly.. Then information technology restarts again until pressure hits about 2 and shuts down over and over until thermostat is satisfied.

My questions is on the restarts, those seem to concluding about 2 mins on and 2 mins off, information technology seems similar a waste of fuel to restart over and over again.

Is this normal? Is at that place anyway to keep the boiler running continuously until the tstat is satisfied?

1 pipe steam,gas, boiler is properly sized for the sq ft of rads/piping in house

cycle rate

Hi John,

No, this is not the mode it should be. The boiler should run without going off on pressure until the t-stat is satisfied.

On one piping steam, check the primary vent(s). They need to exist properly located, working and sized. Have a heating professional check it. The brusque cycling you describe is wasting fuel and wearing out the gas valve.

What expanse of the country are you in? Possibly someone on the wall hither can aid you.

Best regards, Pat

Over sized or over fired

I agree that this sounds similar too much boiler for the home or building -

Have a qualified heating contractor practice a oestrus load calculation on your domicile to determine how much heat yous really need - So compare that with the size of the boiler and the firing rate of the burner.

If this is an oil banality you may simply need to alter the nozzle size to change the Firing rate of the burner-

Brand certain that the burner is adjusted with someone that is experienced with using Combustion Efficiency test equipment to assure that your burner fuel air ratio is ready correctly.

Proficient Luck
MG

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Sounds like an air problem...

As the host of this wonderful web site is known to say, "the solution is rarely in the aforementioned room equally the problem".

I suspect air vents at the finish of main and radiators are undersized, causing the steam to compress the air, causing the pressure level switch to kick in before its time.

Think, air and steam cannot occupy the same space at the same fourth dimension...

Get rid of the air, and the steam will make the radiators hot, thereby delivering the goods to the thermostat (rut) that the thermostat was looking for.

ME

cycling

I'd bet it ends up being a problem with venting, merely even when all the vents in the system work properly, the sysetem will still bike through the pressuretrol until the stat is satisfied. That's but the nature of the fauna.
One other possibility: If you have a mercury type pressuretrol, it has to be level to work correctly, and it too has to be installed with the pigtail in the correct position.

John Q,

Anytime yous heat upward all rads, fully, from a cold start in 10 minutes your burner is overfired for sure, and may be oversized as well. I would judge past a cistron of 2, at least!

Information technology makes no divergence whether or not yous go from threescore° to 65, or 65° to xc. Anytime a boiler tin become from a cold start to all rads heated to the ends in ten minutes the problem tin can only be 1 affair. The boiler is overfired.

You state information technology's gas. You also state the boiler is sized for the EDR rad/load. Clock the meter (if it's NG) and decide what the gas rate is compared to the boiler plate input charge per unit. If it'south LP, check the pressure at the manifold.

Regaredless of which it is, it is definitely getting much more fuel than information technology should. The accented minimum time it should take for a cold offset to all rads hot from one finish to the other is peradventure 15-20 minutes. I adopt 25 to 30 for a cold boiler (lxx° boiler h2o temp) to all sections of all rads to be steamed/hot. Even 35 is okay.

Something's wrong.

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I may be off nigh the cold start time,

Im working off of memory from last winter. It may exist fifteen to twenty mins... house is small ,the main is but about xxx feet with a large master vent almost the end.

But definitely subsequently all rads are heated (and they all get hot at effectually the same time give or have a infinitesimal) the banality will shut off on pressure before the thermostat is satisfied- but all rads give off heat - it never shuts on pressure before rads are giving off heat.

I understand what somebody said that in one case pipes/rads are hot the system is 1/3 oversized..

I thought information technology would be optimal if the banality ran continuously and never build any force per unit area and only shut off when the thermostat was satisfied.

But i judge once the steam is in all the pipes and rads it cannot disappate as fast and volition cause pressure to rise???

Am I asking for besides much here??? I read about short-cycling simply from reading up on that information technology said short cycling is when banality is on/off repeatedly with NO HEAT from rads.. I do get estrus..

would calculation a second main vent help the boiler run longer??

huh?

The thermostat is non the operating command-it tells the boiler it's time to trip the light fantastic, and then the boiler fires up and cycles off the pressuretrol. Period. The boiler will bicycle off the pressuretrol TILL the stat is satisfied. Now, where the stat is located is one thing, and whether or not all the vents work is some other. At the terminate of the twenty-four hour period, the pressuretrol has the final say of when the burner cycles on/off.

might need a Dan H. intervention

Hi Will,

Nosotros are looking at the aforementioned thing, but with different perpectives.

I'm from the quondam school of coal fire. Hand-stoked wearisome burn burn down to heat the h2o upwards to steam temps. Big steam chests and plenty of outlets to assure dry steam. Steam slowly moving out of the boiler, heating cold iron as information technology moves, pushing air to the vents. All the while the damper regulator is modulating the draft doors in reaction to whatever build-upwards of pressure level as steam fills the system. Working on as low a pressure as possible because low pressure uses less fuel.

But the old school and perfect worlds do not exist. Our reality is automated fired burners, by and large at full boom till either the t-stat or safety turns it off. The traditional solution is extra large venting to prevent air being pressurized in the system by the quick-to-steam modern boiler, causing the safety/operating (pressuretrol) control to cycle. I have seen and been told of many systems that wheel on the t-stat without e'er showing any force per unit area on the approximate or shutting off on pressure. I like that, it's a good thing.

My goal for a sytem is to bicycle on t-stat, non on pressure. Reality is some cycling on pressure level is going to happen. If information technology happens a lot, then look for causes, like over-fire, under-venting, over-sizing, bad piping, dingy water, etc.

All-time regards, Pat

Could the thermostat be the culprit as well? T-stat not suited to steam rut? T-stat defective simply however functioning? T-stat anticipator defective or improperly adapted?

annihilation is possible

Hi Mike,

Good question, you never desire to overlook something. The type of t-stat and its adjustment can touch on functioning. Withal, from the info provided, checking the venting rate, firing rate, well-nigh banality piping and boiler sizing would come first.

Best regards, Pat

Vaporstat

Comments mention low pressure steam existence most efiiceient. I replaced the pressuretrol with a vaporstat. It is set to bike between 2 ounces and 12 ounces pressure level. Is the differential too large? Should information technology be increasesd? I am trying to reduce cycling on a boiler that is virtually 25%-30% oversize. All mains are vented and sized properly.

Insufficient radiations

Perhaps your boiler is more oversized than it seems if you don't take sufficient radiation aside from the nominal EDR of the radiators. Covers on radiators? Metallic paint? Your piping vs. radiation load ratio may exist especially low, pregnant the 1.iii pickup factor is a bit on the high side. I suppose this is more likely on a one-floor business firm with all of the radiators (mis)-placed in the middle of the house right next to the main.

-Michael

no interventions on the weekend!

How-do-you-do Pat-
I understand what you're getting at. I take intendance of several 40+ unit apartment buildings that were in one case cycled off of condensate temp that I've put remote sensing stats on; before the remote stats, in the wintertime, half the tenants had their windows open-it got so hot it would have your jiff away. Now with a stat set at 68 at the furthest indicate from the banality, pressuretrol at i.5 cutout 1/v cutin and all the vents working, all is well. The boilers used to exist coal also, now gas. I'g just used to seeing these lower volume puppies. Here in the Chicago expanse, I'm just glad to see Any steam arrangement. More ofttimes than not, adjust and tie salesmen that don't know what they're looking at convince owners to rip 'em out for forced air.

cheers for sharing

Hi Will,

Information technology is e'er proficient to hear well-nigh a organisation that is working fine. I also detest to hear the familiar scenario of ripping out steam systems because someone doesn't understand the trouble.

Glad to hear all is well. I suspect its good venting, depression pressure and your attending to maintenance.

Best regards, Pat

No intervention needed

Gerry and Pat are absolutely right. If the system is vented properly and the boiler is fired to the continued load the boiler should "not" cycle off on pressure!

should I raise the pressuretrol setting??

I know that is a no-no in Dans book, but in this situation raising the pressure would allow the boiler run longer and reduce the time between cycling..

Which is the lessor of 2 evils, frequent pressure cycling or running at higher pressure?

no evils please

Hello John,

In that location is no lessor when both options are evil. Frequent pressure cycling and running on higher pressure are both bad options and usually can exist corrected with repairs, adjustments or corrections that pay for themselves in lower operating costs. Why not do the correct affair?

Best regards, Pat

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